A Diary Of A Mesowarrior Living With #Mesothelioma #asbestos 12KBW hosted a talk on Asbestos In Talc


On Friday I had an invitation to join a talk on a subject Im so interested in –

Talc & Asbestos: What’s going on?

12KBW is hosting a seminar on talcum powder and asbestos.

Chaired by Harry Steinberg QC, a team of lawyers and experts from the US and the Asbestos Team at 12KBW will discuss recent scientific, medical and legal developments in the US, including the Johnson & Johnson cases, and ask what relevance they have to claimants in the UK.

It was at Drapers’ Hall, Throgmorton Avenue, London, EC2N 2DQ which Ray and I found just behind the Bank Of England. We had never been up the side roads here even though we had passed it many times from the Bank Underground.

We found Drapers’ Hall and met up with other friends that were joining in.

Let me give you a short history of this building that took our breath away.

As the trading activities of the guilds expanded, members required a Hall where they could meet to discuss and co-ordinate business. At first, they used individuals’ houses but in the 1420s the Drapers’ guild decided to build its own Hall. This first Hall was in St. Swithin’s Lane.

The present Hall, situated in Throgmorton Street, was bought from King Henry VIII in 1543 for the sum of 1,800 marks (approximately £1,200). This had been the house of Thomas Cromwell, Earl of Essex and Chief Minister to Henry, but had been forfeited to the King on Cromwell’s execution in July 1540.

Destroyed by the Great Fire of 1666, Drapers’ Hall was rebuilt between 1667 and 1671 to designs by Edward Jarman. In 1772, it was again rebuilt after a fire which did considerable damage and, in the 1860s, the frontage was changed and the interior altered by Herbert Williams. It was later altered once more in 1898-9 by Sir Thomas Graham Jackson.

So we all sat down and at last I was listening to the truth about Asbestos in Talc. Lawyers and Doctors from the US and the cases they have bought to court and won.
Its not just Johnson and Johnson it is the brands that the US sold that was mined in China and surprisingly Australia.
Boots Coty and Avon are on the list. A whole list is being put together and when I can get my hands on that I will share.

But the use talc in the industry as well. Malt, animal feed and all sorts of dry foods. T

Talc is also used in food processing, and to make some supplements, pharmaceutical pills, chewing gum and polished rice. Consumer groups have also found it in crayons and children’s toys, like crime-scene fingerprint kits.

Talc was routinely applied to surgical gloves and condoms until the 1990s, when the Food and Drug Administration told manufacturers to stop using it because of health concerns.

Talc is used in many cosmetics: lipstick, mascara, face powder, blush, eye shadow, foundation and even children’s makeup. In the list of ingredients, it can be listed as talc, talcum or talcum powder, cosmetic talc or magnesium silicate. Talc is added to cosmetics to create a silky feel and absorb moisture. Some brands make talc-free cosmetics.

Pediatricians have been warning parents for decades not to use powder on babies because of the risk a child will inhale or aspirate talc, which can cause choking and coughing and lead to respiratory illness or chronic disease and lung damage. This has nothing to do with asbestos.

Cases of babies dying from choking on powder were reported as early as the 1960s, and since 1981, the American Academy of Pediatrics has taken a strong position against the use of talc on babies and children, saying it is hazardous and has no medicinal value.

The F.D.A. last tested talc products in 2010 and found no asbestos, but it was provided raw talc from only four suppliers and tested only 24 commercial products. Experts who have analyzed talc on behalf of plaintiffs suing Johnson & Johnson say they have detected asbestos in talc products.

The F.D.A. does not test cosmetics for safety. With the exception of color additives, neither makeup nor any of its ingredients require the agency’s approval. The agency says it takes the possible presence of asbestos in cosmetics very seriously, but that manufacturers and marketers are responsible for their safety.

It points to voluntary standards set by the manufacturers’ trade association, the Personal Care Products Council, which declared in 1976 that all talc products should be free of asbestos. The council has no way of enforcing the standard. but now it is reported the FDA want a more uniformed Standard so things are changing all the time.

Ovarian Cancer was spoken about as well so it seem Talcum Powder has a lot to answer for its just proving it and how many of us keep tins of Talc to get tested and  to be able to prove this was how we was contaminated.

It turns out that if the talc can be proved to come from the US then we in the Uk can bring a case to court, there seems to be so many pitfalls and I fear some cases will be thrown out of court. Its a case of watch this space. Although we in the UK have been testing it correct but the US hasnt and its been taken serious since 1900 and 1942 they found asbestos in miners lungs. 1957/1958 J&J found asbestos in Italian Talc. 1968 it was found in 22 cosmetics,1970 CTFA  Reports that using corn starch was to costly,1973 Federal Government bought out a testing Standard ———- So once again we patients have been lied too.

After a meet up with all the friends and shared drinks and snacks we said our goodbyes. Thank you 12KBW the Speakers were so informative and the subject just so fascinating  it has fired me up and I feel I can now add this to my Presentations its about time we did talked about Asbestos in Talc

 

 

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